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                        THE DEBATE 

This comment on the first Presidential debate, Sept. 30, 2004, comes in two parts.  The first consists of comments based on live notes that I took down on my laptop computer as the debate progressed.  The second, very short, presents a few thoughts about particular issues that did not come up, and their significance, and a couple of comments on post-debate commentary. 

Part I 

First, I thought that the questions coming from Jim Lehrer of PBS were well-done, to the point, no zingers; none planned out specifically to embarrass either candidate a la the famous question to Dukakis in 1988 about Kitty and the death penalty for a potential rapist.  Second, I thought that Kerry was marvelously well-prepared and so well-rehearsed that he did not look at all like he was rehearsed, just the way the top method actors do it.  Bush, most observers agree, looked tired, weak, wimpy, out-of-place, the trademark smirk replaced by a look that could have come from a Mad magazine cartoon.  To me, Kerry looked Presidential.  Bush looked like an arguer, not even a debater (but then I am prejudiced).  Bush often appeared halting: the “uhs” and the “you knows.”  Kerry didn’t utter one “uh” until almost the end of the 90 minutes. 

Kerry came out fighting on such on-the-ground Iraq issues as shortages of body armor and armed Humvees.  He pointed out the truth, that the situation on the ground, for the Iraqis and American troops, is getting worse by the day.  He attacked Bush on what he has done and not done, and put forward positive plans.  Bush’s main response was to immediately lie about the connection between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda, and then make the amazing claim that America’s security lies in “securing freedom around the world.”  Kerry kindly did not ask him just how Bush planned to go about that monster task, especially with a military that is already way over-stretched, at the same time that he is clamping down on freedom so fiercely here at home. 

Bush ducked on the question, would the election of Kerry make it more likely that a terrorist attack would occur.  “He won’t. win, I will,” said Bush.  Bush went to the argument he kept repeating ad nauseum, that the US is “attacking the enemy everywhere we find him.”  He talked about the progress of voter-registration in Afghanistan.  He did not talk about voter-registration and what his party is doing to ensure that the lowest possible number of Afro-Americans get to vote in Florida.  Bush attacked the “ideology of hatred,” but did neglect to mention the hatred that spews forth every day, against, for example, our homosexual community, from his base in the Republican Religious Right.  Kerry used the opportunity presented by the question to say that he will be strong on terror, by going after it in places it is truly bred.  In that context, he attacked Bush on going into Iraq, citing the Bush lies on WMD, etc.  Kerry then used the opportunity to he list his military endorsers (and the list is a long one). 

When Kerry was asked (Lehrer using Kerry’s own words) “What colossal misjudgments has Bush made?”  He cited: not wanting to go to the UN on Iraq in the first place; giving up on the UN inspection process (he did not say the obvious: Bush knew that he couldn’t let Hans Blix proceed to the end because he, Bush, already knew that Blix would in the end find no WMD); Bush did not use war only as a “last resort,” that Bush lied (although Kerry was careful never to use that specific word) in saying that “the inspections failed.”  Kerry got in a Kerry-type (that is subtle) zinger by pointing out that Iraq was not at the center of the war on terror until Bush went to war in Iraq.   

Kerry called for new spending on homeland security and Bush asked “how is he going to pay for it?” Bush of course has never raised similar questions about the cost of the war in Iraq, and it was on raising the money to pay for that war by not giving yet another tax cut to the rich that Kerry voted, once, against the famous “$87 billion.” When Kerry attacked tax cuts in relation to paying for homeland security, presenting at the same time a detailed plan for taking many specific homeland defense actions that Bush has not, Bush didn’t respond. 

Bush continually called all the Iraqi insurgents “terrorists,” that is until towards the end he referred to them as “Saddam loyalists” and “Ba’athists.”  Hmm.  One of Kerry’s subtle jabs that will get continuing play is his use of George I against George II on not going to, and going to, Baghdad without a doable exit plan.  Another is Kerry’s admission that he made a mistake in how he talked about the war, while the Pres. made a mistake in invading Iraq.  Which mistake would you rather have, Kerry said?  Brilliant. 

When Kerry was asked about Bush lies, he said that he wouldn’t use that word, but gave examples Bush “not being candid:” “yellow cake and the State of the Union address,” “building a real coalition,” “not allowing the UN process to go to completion,” “abandoning other lines of diplomacy,” “told us he had a plan.”  Kerry also used the opportunity to talk about his own foreign policy experience. 

Kerry used his Vietnam experience in a very sophisticated, understated way.  A great one-liner was that we “must not confuse the war with the warriors.”  He went on to say that he is determined to make sure that the outcome of the Iraq War honors their nobility.  He said that he has a plan for winning in Iraq, and spelled it out in detail.  The President never did the same thing, either because he doesn’t have a plan, or does but couldn’t possibly share it with American people or the world, not to mention the people of Iraq, because it primarily focuses on making sure that American oil companies get their hands on that Kurdish oil.  

The President is not getting the job done, Kerry said, and he very smartly referred to his website where viewers can find more detail on his position. Kerry talked specifically about giving up the bases the US is building in Iraq, and said that he will make a clear statement that US has no long-term designs on Iraq.  He pointed out that when US forces first arrived in Baghdad, they guarded the oil ministry, but not the nuclear energy ministry.  He could have mentioned many other civil ministries and the museums being left to the predations of the looters, but did not. 

Kerry pointed out that 35 to 40 countries around the world have a capability of making WMD.  Any pre-emptive war must be undertaken with credibility, he said. Another fine one-liner in this context was: “We didn’t need to rush to war without a plan to win the peace.”   In this context he did make the one statement that the Republicans will use to their advantage: “the global test” one.  What he meant was that before going to war on its own, the US should make sure to take into account the positions of our allies and see if they will come along with us in significant numbers, but if in the end the President decides to go it alone, after exhausting all other options, he should.  But that is not how the Republicans will spin it, and since they have little else to go with, spin it they will.  Kerry is going to have to fix that one quickly. 

Kerry responded instantly on the question, what is the most serious threat to US security: nuclear proliferation.  He stated that he will help Russia to clean up its left-over nuclear material as quickly as possible (which Bush is not doing; has actually cut funds for that project) and that he will give up our own new nuclear weapons expansion program as quickly as possible, for it is totally hypocritical to ask for nuclear proliferation controls when the US is developing an entirely new generation of nuclear weapons.  In relation to relations with Russia, Bush said that there need to be checks and balances in a democracy.  Funny, he doesn’t seem to think that when it comes to government in the United States. He is working as hard as he can to eliminate that primary feature of our Constitution. Oh yes, also on Russia, Bush approved on Putin’s response to the Beslan horror.  Kerry let that one go. 

There are many other observations to make, such as that Kerry pointed that Powell had had to apologize for mis-leading UN, Bush has messed up in North Korea, Bush talks about negotiations and sanctions in dealing with the truly dangerous North Korea and Iran, but for some reason didn’t want to follow the same rout in dealing with the much less threatening-to-us Iraq, but this note is getting rather long as it is.  

Part II 

Let me just mention of a couple of issues that weren’t there, and why not.  Lehrer asked Bush to address the “character” issue.  Bush just lobbed compliments in Kerry’s direction.  He couldn’t get into the Swift Boat Brownshirt-type lies because then that would have given Kerry the opening to bring up the truth about Bush’s own “military service” record.  Nor did he openly raise the “flip-flop” issue, because his handlers knew that Kerry would come back with both barrels on Bush’s own, much more serious, flip-flops (like, for example, the reason he went to war in Iraq).  Second, Bush couldn’t mention 9/11, formerly a big “how great did I respond on that one, folks” issue for him, because that would have given Kerry an opportunity to bring up Richard Clarke, Treasury Secretary O’Neill, the 9/11 Commission Report and what his party is and is not doing with it in Congress, the famous August 6, 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing, and so on and so forth.  Sometimes what isn’t said can be as fascinating as what is 

And finally, briefly on the immediate post-debate analyses.  Bush is in real trouble.  The only people saying what a great job he did were his flacks, especially Karen Hughes who was all over the place.  I held my nose and watched Fox on purpose.  Well, when Morton Kondracke and Bill Kristol, big Bush cheerleaders, say that “on balance” Kerry “did better” (“won” was a word that just couldn’t cross their lips, now could it), that means that it went extremely well for Kerry.  Friday morning, again, even a commentator from The Wall Street Journal, interviewed on NBC, was saying that Kerry did very well and Bush didn’t.   

I do have to note that post-debate on Fox, after their pundits, mainly right-wingers of course, gave it to Kerry on points, right-wing flack Sean Hannity, playing “journalist,” came on, to “interview” Hughes.  So one of Bush’s strongest national-media supporters interviews one of Bush’s strongest inner-circle supporters.  And then the same flack “interviews” (yes, it was a second debate in fact) Richard Holbrooke, representing Sen. Kerry.  Well that’s “fair and balanced” isn’t it?  After all, they had one from each side, with the rather weak liberal Alan Colmes nowhere to be seen up front.  He did come on later, after most people (including me), on the East Coast at least, had turned off their televisions sets and gone to bed. 

And now I am turning of my computer.  Hope that you found something of interest and use in this not-so-little missive.

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SEPTEMBER 30, 2004 UPDATE 

                        “FOUR 800 LB. GORILLAS IN THE CAMPAIGN ROOM” 

I write this column not knowing the derivation of the term “800 lb. gorilla in the room.”  I take it to refer to an event or an issue that is of great importance in a given setting, to which no one in said setting is referring.  One or more participants may be aware of the creature’s existence, but others may be totally oblivious. But in any case, no one is talking about their nature, considering how they came to be in the room, or planning in any way how to deal with them, at least openly.  What the gorilla population thinks about having the name of their species used in this sense I have no idea, but if they take offense at it, I do apologize.  I didn’t make up the term myself. 

There are (at least) four major issues that very seriously effect and are-having/will-have a major impact on the future of our country.  Three of the gorillas significantly concern themselves with both foreign and domestic policy. The Bush Campaign is not talking abut any of these gorillas and certainly wants to stay as far away from them as possible.  For its true position on any of them would definitely be a negative factor for the Georgites.  The gorillas I am talking about are: true Sharonist policy for Israel/Palestine, the Patriot Act and its assault on our Constitutional rights, the role of Big Oil in both domestic and foreign policy, and the Christian Right and its true agenda. 

Even though it is the case that the Georgites simply want to these gorillas to stay in their corners, unnoticed, the Kerry Campaign isn’t referring to any of them either, for a variety of reasons.  One is that they might not know how to deal with one or more of them, in terms of policy, or politics, or both.  A second is that in one or more instances the Kerry position is not all that different from that of the Georgites.  A third is that the issue is extremely complex and therefore much groundwork in educating the public would have to have been laid before a reasonable position could be discussed in the electoral context.  Therefore, I am not raising these issues here with the thought or the claim that the Kerry Campaign should take them up now.  But were the Senator to become President, he is going to have to deal with at least two of them, and I think that he should at some time in the future deal with the other two as well.     

The first of the “will have to deal with” issues is that, almost certainly,  the current Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, does not in any way, shape, or form desire peace with the Palestinian people – at least a peace that would envision a viable, independent, if demilitarized, state for them in the West Bank and Gaza.  What he wants, or at least appears by his actions to want, is to make conditions so uncomfortable for the Palestinians in the West Bank that they will leave, hopefully, in Sharon’s terms, for Jordan.  Since his days as a young Army officer, Sharon has referred to the territory now comprising the nation of Jordan as the only true Palestinian homeland, the 1947 UN decision on partition to the contrary notwithstanding. 

Sharon, of course, does not currently say this out loud.   But several of his cabinet ministers do, as do numerous political and religious figures in Israel to Sharon’s right (if you can imagine anyone to the right of Sharon).  Furthermore, the “facts on the ground,” as the Sharonists like to refer to them, that is the ever expanding conglomeration of Jewish settlements on Palestinian land, indicate that this is the ultimate goal.  There is nothing in the current Israeli policy of annexation, destruction, and ghettoization that indicates anything else.  The next US President will be forced at some time during his term to deal with this reality that no one happens to talk about.  Gorilla No. 1. 

Next is the Patriot Act and its assault on the Constitution.  I have written about this issue in other columns and will revisit it only briefly here.  Under the Patriot Act the President can, on his own authority, search any home without obtaining a search warrant from a non-secret judge, label any person, citizen or non-citizen, a “terrorist”  or “terrorist threat;” then proceed to arrest and  imprison that person without making the fact of the arrest public, without informing the person about the offense with which they are being charged; and may hold the person indefinitely without access to a lawyer and without being brought to trial, not even to a grand jury proceeding.   

Certain of these provisions have been held to be unconstitutional by a closely split Supreme Court, but the current regime has not backed down in wanting to have them in some form on the books.  If the Georgites win the election, and get the opportunity to replace even just Sandra Day O’Connor on the Supreme Court, rest assured that the current anti-Administration decisions will be reversed.  And the Georgites want both to make the Patriot Act permanent and expand the powers under it.  Thus, at a stroke, the Patriot Act, without the benefit of going through the Amendment process, has repealed the Fourth Amendment’s protection against warrant-less searches without probable cause supported by oath or affirmation, the Fifth Amendment’s guarantee of the due process of law, and the Sixth Amendment’s guarantees of “speedy” jury trial with full knowledge of charges and the opportunity to confront witnesses in criminal cases.  Gorilla No. 2. 

Gorilla No. 3 is the role of Big Oil in the determination of both foreign and domestic policy of the United States. In foreign policy, for example, if the Iraq invasion is not really about oil, hegemony in the Middle East, and the establishment of permanent bases there (the U.S. has 10 plus of them under construction), what is it about?  We know that it is not about WMD or al-Qaeda (except in the sense that a British diplomat, taking the 17th century English playwright’s George Fahrquahr’s name in vain, recently referred to US policy as a Recruiting Officer for them).  It is not about freedom or democracy either.  Bush’s record on those subjects for his own country (see Gorilla No. 2) shows that George Bush has no interest in either one.  But the Project for the New American Century of Perle, Wolfowitz, W. Kristol, etc., which began proposing an Iraq invasion back in the 1990s and are the foreign policy setters for the Georgite regime, gave us the real reasons for the attack, to which now the aims of Sharonist Israel can be added.  

As far as domestic policy is concerned, I don’t have to go through all of the environmental stuff, that fact the Bush and Cheney both come from the oil industry, the power of the oil lobby, and etc. Just this note.  It is not the “insatiable addiction of the American people” to oil that make us use so much of it.  It is the oil industry’s insatiable addiction to the profits they derive from it.  Why do we have such an antiquated railway system compared with every other industrialized country, and one that runs mainly on diesel rather than electric power?  Why is energy conservation a dirty term in the US?  Do shopping mall parking lot lights really have to stay on all night, as do the lights in my own office complex, where there is no master switch to turn them off in the open spaces?  Why was one of the first acts of the Reagan Administration, the first in which the oil industry really had juice, to summarily end a major alternative/renewable energy research program that had started under Carter?  Why does not the industry itself realize that yes, no matter much oil they discover, EVENTUALLY it is going to run out, and then where will they be, to say nothing of us?   

The US oil industry owns very little of the stuff in the ground now.  They make their money by selling the oil they import from the producing nations.  Therefore, to make as much profit as they can, now, they need to sell as much of the stuff as they can, now.  In this case, it is the future of mankind, not the devil that will take the hindmost.  That is why they were, and are, so eager to get their hands on the oil patch in Kurdish Iraq, which may contain the largest reserves outside of Saudi Arabia. Gorilla No. 3 

Gorilla No. 4 is our homegrown Christian fundamentalist movement that has so much in common in its approach to civil government with the Muslim fundamentalists.  Just briefly here, in domestic policy these people want to enforce by the use of the criminal law their prescriptions for certain personal behaviors that, given the fundamental weakness of their arguments, they can not get people to abide by voluntarily.  They want to establish that the US is a “Christian Nation,” just as long as they, and only they, get to define just what is “Christian,” and in their vocabulary “love thy neighbor as thyself” is surely not part of it.  In foreign policy, the millenarianism of the Armageddonistas, of which George Bush himself may well be one, holds that the modern state of Israel must hold all the land that the Bible defines as “Israel” before the “Rapture” can occur.  And so their more-than-fervent support of Sharon and what he is really after.  (Oh-so-briefly) Gorilla No. 4. 

Should Kerry win, in my view our task as progressive Democrats will be get these gorillas out of the corners and into the arena of policy discussion.  If Bush wins, our task will be to start immediately working on developing a platform for the Democratic Party that will firmly and strongly oppose the Republicans on all of these issues, propose resolutions for them, and set about finding the right candidate to be the Gorilla Tamer for 2008.

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Dr. Steven Jonas is a TPJ contributing author.  He is a Professor of Preventive Medicine at Stony Brook University (NY) and author of some twenty books. Dr. Jonas is one of America's most perceptive Democratic political analysts.

In The New Americanism, Dr. Jonas presents his case that the Democratic Party has come adrift from its founding principles, and he urges a swift return to support for the constitution as the best source for America's patriotic, political and social culture. "The New Americanism: How the Democratic Party Can Win the Presidency  from Amazon.com (just click on the title).

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Previous Articles

Sept 23, 2004               "Fixing The Kerry Campaign, 9/15/2004"
Sept 16, 2004              
"Lessons From Japan.  Part II: Successful Occupations"
Sept 9, 2004                 "
Thoughts On the Third Anniversary of the Tragedy of 9/11/2001"
Sept 2, 2004                 "Lessons From Japan, Part 1"


August 26,2004             “Dealing with the Republican National Convention and Related
                                     Issues”

August 18, 2004            "The Best Of Dr. Jonas"

August 12, 2004
        “Some Thoughts For and About The Kerry Campaign, VI”
August 5,2004              
“Some Thoughts For and About The Kerry Campaign, V”
July 29, 2004                “Some Thoughts For and About The Kerry Campaign, IV”
July 22, 2004                “Some Thoughts For and About The Kerry Campaign III”              
July 15, 2004               
Some Thoughts For And About The Kerry Campaign II”
July 7, 2004                  “Some Thoughts For And About The Kerry Campaign,I”
July 1, 2004                  “Counsel To The President”

June 24, 2004               “ ’You Know me Al:’ On the German Reichstag Fire of Feb. 27, 1933                                      and the 9/11/01 Bombing of the World Trade Center, Part II”
June 17, 2004               “ ‘The Ralph Nader Problem’ --- A Re-run plus”
June 10, 2004               “Ronald Reagan’s Legacy”
June 3, 2004                 “’You Know Me Al:’ On The Reichstag Fire Of Feb. 27, 1933 And The
                                      9/11/01 Bombing Of The World Trade Center, Part I”

May 27, 2004                “On Fascism -- And The Georgites”
May 20, 2004                “On John Ashcroft -- And Jefferson Davis”
May 13, 2004                “Karl Rove’s Personal Political Notebook”
May 6, 2004                  “Possible Explanations For Bush Behavior And 9/11”

April 29, 2004               “On George Bush and Religion, Part 2
April 22, 2004               “What Condi Rice Might Have Said”
April 8, 2004                 “On George Bush And Religion”
April 1, 2004                 “Some Political Thoughts For Senator Kerry”

March 25, 2004              “Brief Essays”
March 16, 2004             “You Know Me Al: The Iraq War --- So What Was It About, Anyway?
March 11, 2004             “A Word (Or Two) On Ralph Nader”
March 4, 2004               “A Firebell In The Night”

February 27, 2004        “On Doctor Dean”

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